23 total players listed on Thursday’s Patriots-Saints injury report

Author Alex Barth

October 5th, 2023 4:28 PM

Both sides are looking pretty banged up heading into Sunday’s Week 5 matchup between the New England Patriots and New Orleans Saints at Gillette Stadium. Between the two teams, a total of 23 players are listed on Thursday’s injury report.

The Patriots’ list remains the same as it was on Wednesday. Cornerback Christian Gonzalez (shoulder) and linebacker Matthew Judon (elbow) were the only two players to miss practice. 10 players were limited including running back Rhamondre Stevenson (thigh), guard Cole Strange (knee), defensive tackle Christian Barmore (knee), and cornerback Jonathan Jones (ankle).

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—Patriots Mailbag: Too soon for doom and gloom?
—Drew Bledsoe on the current state of the Patriots
—J.C. Jackson is back

The Saints did make a couple of changes on their side of the report. Offensive tackle Landon Young (hip) as added as a limited participant. Fellow tackle Ryan Ramczyk (foot) was upgraded from a non-participant to limited, and defensive tackle Bryan Bresee (illness) and cornerback Erik McCoy (knee) were upgraded to full participants. Tight end Jimmy Graham (rest) was removed from the report all together.

On Friday the teams will release their final injury reports of the week. That will include game statuses for Sunday, which will add clarity to a number of these injury situations.

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Patriots Mailbag: Too soon for doom and gloom?

• Andrew Caraway on Twitter: "With a team like the Broncos struggling and we all know the Patriots won't tank do you see a chance that the Patriots could acquire a player like Jeudy now? Finally get Mac a legitimate weapon. / Twitter"

  With a team like the Broncos struggling and we all know the Patriots won't tank do you see a chance that the Patriots could acquire a player like Jeudy now? Finally get Mac a legitimate weapon.

  If the Broncos are smart, Jerry Jeudy will be available at the deadline. Still, there are two questions. One – will the Patriots be willing to be buyers (and big buyers, given the likely cost for Jeudy). Two – if they are willing to part with premium assets will it be for a wide receiver, or would they rather add to another spot on the roster, especially those that have been decimated by injuries (ex. cornerback).

• ashley1992 on Twitter: "Hi Alex, With Lowe struggling at RT the last two weeks, do you think the Patriots will make a change this week and if so, who do you think it will be? / Twitter"

  Hi Alex, With Lowe struggling at RT the last two weeks, do you think the Patriots will make a change this week and if so, who do you think it will be?

  If the Patriots want to make a change at right tackle their options are limited – especially if Riley Reiff isn’t ready to return from IR just yet. Calvin Anderson already got benched, leaving Tyrone Wheatley Jr. as the only other true tackle on the roster. Andrew Stueber is also on the practice squad.

  The other option the team could consider is moving Mike Onwenu back out to right tackle, with one of the rookie guards stepping in for him on the interior (or Reiff once he’s ready, as he did thihs summer). It’s an idea that’s been floated plenty externally but since the start of the 2022 season the team has seemed to be firmly against the idea of moving Onwenu from right guard. Was Sunday’s loss jarring enough to change their minds?

• Patriots 300 Level Podcast on Twitter: "Do you expect Jennings to take some of Judson's role on passing downs? Also would Judons absence create more playing time for Sam Roberts? / Twitter"

  Do you expect Jennings to take some of Judson's role on passing downs? Also would Judons absence create more playing time for Sam Roberts?

  Jerod Mayo highlighted this week that it will be “multiple guys trying to fill that role.” In that sense, there should be more snaps available for Anfernee Jennings. However, the one player Mayo highlighted specifically when talking about filling in for Matthew Judon was Keion White, so look for him to see the largest increase in playing time.

  As for Roberts, it’s not unrealistic to think he’ll see more playing time as well, but that’s more related to the injury to Daniel Ekuale than Judon.

• Forgotten Patriots on Twitter: "Does that trade potentially mean that Jonathan Jones is out longer than most of us thought? Or is it strictly a response to Gonzalez? / Twitter"

  Does that trade potentially mean that Jonathan Jones is out longer than most of us thought? Or is it strictly a response to Gonzalez?

  This deal for J.C. Jackson seems to be mostly in response to Christian Gonzalez’s season ending injury. If there is another cornerback that factored into that decision is would most likely be Jack Jones, who ESPN’s Mike Reiss reported last week isn’t expected to return soon.

• ¯_(ツ)_/¯ on Twitter: "Do you foresee him sticking out the contract with New England? Think he's signed til 2026.If he regains his mojo back in NE, could make a very formidable secondary. / Twitter"

  Do you foresee him sticking out the contract with New England? Think he's signed til 2026.If he regains his mojo back in NE, could make a very formidable secondary.

  If J.C. Jackson plays well, there’s no reason to think the Patriots wouldn’t keep him around. With most of his guaranteed money either already paid or set to be paid by the Chargers, the Patriots can restructure his deal to keep him around at a team-friendly cost.

  If he sticks around though, it will most likely be on a restructure. Without a restructure his cap his for next year would be $14 million. Look for the team to change that before his roster bonus is due in mid-March.

• Ken on Twitter: "If they are making moves. Do you think they feel inside the walls they feel like they have a chance to contend for playoffs. And if that's a yes. Why not trade for a receiver. Offense needs a shake up. / Twitter"

  If they are making moves. Do you think they feel inside the walls they feel like they have a chance to contend for playoffs. And if that's a yes. Why not trade for a receiver. Offense needs a shake up.

  This was probably an easier move to make than the average trade deadline deal. J.C. Jackson was clearly available based on his recent usage in Los Angeles (he was a healthy scratch two weeks ago, then dressed by didn’t play last week). Plus, the Patriots were already familiar with Jackson.

  If the Patriots feel like they are a player or two away from making a playoff push, trading for Jackson shouldn’t prevent them from adding offensively. However, those kinds of trade almost always take place in the week or two before the deadline. This was probably more about an immediate need for depth, and unique circumstances surrounding the availability of a player the Patriots already knew.

   

• Matt Ryan on Twitter: "Is it safe to say La'ell Collins is a pipe dream with Reiff due to come back? Reiff was a hand picked Bill guy so I don't see him filling the need elsewhere even though Collins is better. Also 18 snaps for PoP and 22 for Pharoah Brown in what universe does that make sense. / Twitter"

  Is it safe to say La'ell Collins is a pipe dream with Reiff due to come back? Reiff was a hand picked Bill guy so I don't see him filling the need elsewhere even though Collins is better. Also 18 snaps for PoP and 22 for Pharoah Brown in what universe does that make sense.

  While the Patriots certainly can use all the help they can get up front offensively, La’el Collins may not be the sure-fire fix many fans seem to expect. He’s 30 years old and coming off a significant knee injury. Despite their own offensive line shortcomings (Joe Burrow has been hit the second-most of any quarterback in the league through four weeks) the Bengals still felt comfortable parting ways with him, which is telling. That doesn’t mean the Patriots shouldn’t sign him, but he’d be more of a flier than an automatic fix.

  As for Demario Douglas, he certainly should be playing more. Pharaoh Brown’s usage from Sunday makes a little more sense in the context of the game, as his role becomes diminished when the team is chasing a multi-score deficit – which happened quickly against the Cowboys.

• Dave on Twitter: "Should the organization pressure bill to trade Uche, Onwenu, Henry, and maybe Duggar since he isn't planning on resigning them? Compile draft picks for the new regime or let the new GM make all those decisions? / Twitter"

  Should the organization pressure bill to trade Uche, Onwenu, Henry, and maybe Duggar since he isn't planning on resigning them? Compile draft picks for the new regime or let the new GM make all those decisions?

  It’s tough to ask a current GM, regardless of who it is, to start making moves for his replacement. The idea of a ‘lame duck’ GM or coach isn’t really something that exists – usually if it gets to that point, the sides have already parted ways.

  That being said, let’s examine this under the assumption that Bill Belichick assumes he’ll be back next year (which he should, just as a competitor). If the team loses the next few games, he still absolutely should look to move players on expiring contract to obtain assets that will help him restock the roster next year.

  All four names Dave mentions here could certainly be trade candidates, but the two that really stand out are Hunter Henry and Josh Uche. We’ve seen pass catchers and pass rushers be dealt for Day 2 picks at the deadline in the past, so those are certainly calls that would be worth making (especially if Henry continues to play the way he has to start the season).

  Even if they know they’re entering a rebuild, the Patriots still should try to retain and re-sign Kyle Dugger, given the role he plays in their defense. As for Mike Onwenu he could be a tradable asset, but guards generally don’t bring back as much of a return. He may be worth holding on to on the off chance he re-signs (and if we’re working under the ‘next regime’ assumption, on the chance that the next coach/GM want to move him back to right tackle).

• Giovanny Maria on Twitter: "Is they land a top 5 pick, should the Pat's try to get a receiver, QB or tackle? What free agents would be available next year? / Twitter"

  Is they land a top 5 pick, should the Pat's try to get a receiver, QB or tackle? What free agents would be available next year?

  If the Patriots are picking this high – which suddenly doesn’t look as unrealistic as it did a month ago – they need to take a quarterback. Even if Mac Jones turns things around individually, this class is simply loaded with QB talent. If the Patriots are drafting in the top five, or even top 10, they’ll likely have a chance to add a potential franchise quarterback.

  Plus, the clock has just about run out on Jones’ rookie deal. So if the team wants to keep him they’re going to have to pay him – limiting their ability to add the much-needed pieces around him at this point. The chance to add a better player that will cost the team less would be a hard chance to pass up.

• thanasis on Twitter: "What is in your opinion, the way forward for this team, considering also they have lost almost all of their secondary? Should we be considering tanking and if so should we be investing in a QB next year? Do you think the season can be turned around? / Twitter"

  What is in your opinion, the way forward for this team, considering also they have lost almost all of their secondary? Should we be considering tanking and if so should we be investing in a QB next year? Do you think the season can be turned around?

  I’ve said in the past I think the Patriots can turn things around to a certain extent, but I’ve felt that way each of the last three years and they haven’t been able to do it. It’s getting harder and harder to point to what might make this year different. The defensive injuries will only further complicate things.

  As for a ‘tank,’ I don’t think Bill Belichick would believe in that philosophically. They’ll continue competing. Whatever that means for next year’s draft will be determined after the season.

• bucephalusrex on Twitter: "Rank the patriots biggest issues right now on offense:A.) Lack of talentB.) Coaching/SchemeC.) Buy in/Chemistry / Twitter"

  Rank the patriots biggest issues right now on offense:A.) Lack of talentB.) Coaching/SchemeC.) Buy in/Chemistry

  I think these are already in the right order, but the gap between B & C is much smaller than the gap between A & B.

• Alex Barth is a writer and digital producer for 985TheSportsHub.com. Any opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of 98.5 The Sports Hub, Beasley Media Group, or any subsidiaries. Thoughts? Comments? Questions? Looking for a podcast guest? Let him know on Twitter @RealAlexBarth or via email at abarth@985TheSportsHub.com.

• Joshua Culver on Twitter: "Who's a realistic QB target in the range the Pats may end up? (Currently 7th) Or do they need to do so much work on the OL and with the skill positions that maybe waiting another year or two for the QB would be better, in your opinion? / Twitter"

  Who's a realistic QB target in the range the Pats may end up? (Currently 7th) Or do they need to do so much work on the OL and with the skill positions that maybe waiting another year or two for the QB would be better, in your opinion?

  It’s still a little too early to start talking draft in this sense. Not just because of where the Patriots are at, but the prospects as well. There are still so many telling games to be plays, especially for the quarterbacks. Let’s check back in on this one in about a month.

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