Barth on Maye: The floor is low, but the ceiling is high enough I’m willing to take the shot
Alex Barth joined Felger and Mazz on Tuesday to discuss the latest with the New England Patriots and the top quarterback prospects in the 2024 NFL Draft. Barth hit on Drake Maye and discussed what the “floor” of Drake Maye could be in the NFL.
What is the floor for Drake Maye?
Alex Barth: I’d use Daniel Jones as the floor, because I just think there’s some physical ability as a runner that will always be there. But the floor is low. The floor is low. I just think the ceiling is high enough that I’m willing to take the shot. Could he get you fired? Yes. But if you trust your coaching staff, if you believe in your coaching staff, all the things you can’t teach a guy are there. And you just got to tell him, “slow down. This is what you’re looking at, you know, let’s tighten up the feet”. If you can get him there, he can do things that other quarterbacks who maybe are cleaner right now, will never be able to do. He can do things J.J. McCarthy will never be able to do.
Jim Murray: For you looking at it, what’s the biggest red flag? Is it the feet? Or is he just a rock head?
Alex Barth: I think it’s he hunts big plays a little too much. I don’t want to say he believes in himself too much, but it’s like, you know, “yeah, I’ll try this”. He’s never seen a window he doesn’t like, which I think is coachable. There’s other guys that have been like that like Josh Allen. Josh Allen has come in the league and had a ton of success. Now sometimes they never grow out of that and that’s the risk. But again if you have good coaches, that’s what happened with Allen. Brian Daboll came in and was like, “hey idiot, you can’t hit that throw. Stop trying it”. And then he kind of ironed out his game. And said “this is where I can use my special tools and this is where maybe I shouldn’t”, and then look what happened, Daboll left and he went back to being a little too reckless with it.
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NFL Mock Draft 2.0: Patriots trade down, then back up
Mock Draft Monday is back, with our second full first-round NFL Mock Draft of the spring. This week, the goal is to answer one question – what might the New England Patriots’ draft look like if they trade down, rather than staying and picking with at third overall?
While this may not be the most likely outcome, it’s a situation worth being ready for. Speaking to the media in recent weeks, Patriots de facto general manager Eliot Wolf and head coach Jerod Mayo have hardly closed the door on the trade-down option.
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“I know everyone likes to think they have the special formula to picking players. But honestly, the guaranteed way to win is to accumulate more picks,” Mayo said last week, in the strongest defense yet of the trade down option. “So if we don’t feel convicted [about a player] at number three, we are willing to do that as well.”
We’ve already looked at what might happen if the Patriots do have conviction in taking one of the top quarterbacks in the draft third overall. That situation was included in our first NFL Mock Draft of the spring.
But, what if the Patriots don’t like any of the top quarterbacks and move down? Working from that belief as a starting point, it’s time for NFL Mock Draft 2.0. Plus, we continued what this Patriots draft might look like through Days 2 and 3 in Patriots Mock Draft 2.5, which you can find here.
There’s one other trend we’re going to explore here as well, and that relates to the quarterbacks. Just how high will the top six players at the position go?
This class has often been compared to the 2021 class. That year, the need for quarterbacks drove players well up the board. Is something similar shaping up for the Class of 2024? Given the reports and rumors around players like Michael Penix and Bo Nix – as well as on individual teams – from the last few weeks, that outcome is feeling more and more likely.
How would this scenario we’ve created play out? Let’s take a look with NFL Mock Draft 2.0…
Note: Trades referenced were made for this mock specifically. Previously completed trades are not detailed.