Patriots dealing with illness ahead of Chiefs game

Author Alex Barth

December 14th, 2023 5:32 PM

As the New England Patriots get ready to face the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday, there appears to be a bug going through the team’s locker room. That was reflected on Thursday’s injury report, with two players downgraded from Wednesday.

Offensive tackle Trent Brown (ankle/hand/illness) did not participate in Thursday’s practice, after being limited on Wednesday. Special teamer Brenden Schooler (illness) also missed practice after not being listed on Wednesday’s injury report. The Patriots were also without running back Rhamondre Stevenson (ankle), who missed his second day in a row.

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Brown and Schooler weren’t the only two players downgraded on Thursday. Wide receiver Tyquan Thornton (hamstring) was added to the report after not being listed on Wednesday. His addition means the Patriots now have five wide receivers on the injury report, with Thornton joining Kayshon Boutte (shoulder), Demario Douglas (concussion), DeVante Parker (knee), and JuJu Smith-Schuster (ankle). All five were limited on Thursday. The other two limited Patriots were defensive lineman Christian Barmore (shoulder) and special teamer Matthew Slater (not injury related, rest).

The Chiefs had one change on their side of the injury report on Thursday. Linebacker Leo Chenal (illness) was upgraded from a non-participant to full participant.

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Patriots Mailbag: Looking at available wide receivers and tackles

• Meh on Twitter: "Is Mapu more of a project than they thought when they drafted him? / Twitter"

  Is Mapu more of a project than they thought when they drafted him?

  Marte Mapu was always going to be somewhat of a project player for the Patriots, but what’s exasperated that is the fact the Patriots are having him change positions from linebacker to safety. If they were going to play him at his drafted position – where he spent time this summer – he may have been able to make more of an impact. I wrote more about this and Bill Belichick’s comments on Mapu last week. You can find that here.

• Jay on Twitter: "Alt or Fashanu? / Twitter"

  Alt or Fashanu?

  For those who don’t know, Jay is asking about the top two tackles in this year’s draft class – Notre Dame’s Joe Alt and Penn State’s Olu Fashanu. Both are projected to be top 10, and potentially top 5 picks.

  Right now I go Alt by a slight margin, for three reasons. One, he has a size advantage on Fashanu in terms of height and weight (6-foot-8, 322 pounds for Alt vs. 6-foot-6, 317 pounds for Fashanu) and I’m guessing his arms will measure longer once they get to the Combine. Alt also has more experience (despite being a year younger) with 33 starts to Fashanu’s 21. Finally Alt has an edge against top competition, with Fashanu allowing six pressures against Ohio State this year.

  Keep in mind this is nitpicking. These two are very close and things can certainly change as we learn more during the pre-draft process. For now, this is where I have them heading into the process.

• J Smooth on Twitter: "Hey Alex, any big time wide receivers you think could become available in trade this off season that would be a patriots fit? Terry mclaurin, DeVonta Smith, Devante Adams?? FA receiver market is kinda questionable/ unproven number 1's / Twitter"

  Hey Alex, any big time wide receivers you think could become available in trade this off season that would be a patriots fit? Terry mclaurin, DeVonta Smith, Devante Adams?? FA receiver market is kinda questionable/ unproven number 1's

  I think it’s certainly possible, when you look at the number of true star receivers that have been openly upset with their teams this year. That group includes Davante Adams, Stefon Diggs, A.J. Brown, and D.K. Metcalf at the top.

  Will they all be available? Probably not. But no position has more high-level players become available in surprise fashion than wide receiver. We can’t rule anything out.

• https://x.com/UnbiasedFan3/status/1734646579343032609?s=20

  Honestly, not that much. The Patriots need wide receiver help but they should be aiming higher than Cooper Kupp. The drop off for wide receiver production is historically steep after age 30, and Kupp turns 31 in June. That, combined with his recent injury history, don’t make him seem like a big-picture answer to the Patriots’ wide receiver woes. He still has skill and would be good in a secondary role, but he shouldn’t be viewed as an alternative to players like Tee Higgins, Marvin Harrison Jr., or any of the wide receivers named in the answer above should they become available.

• Ed Helinski 🇺🇸🇵🇱 on Twitter: "Alex, you've been named President of Football Operations for the Patriots. You've been given carte blanche. What decisions are you making to fix this hot mess of a football team? / Twitter"

  Alex, you've been named President of Football Operations for the Patriots. You've been given carte blanche. What decisions are you making to fix this hot mess of a football team?

  This is a big question – too big for a mailbag answer. Last year, I laid out my 10-point plan for how I would handle the Patriots’ offseason. Look for something similar once the regular season comes to a close this year.

• With the departure of Malik Cunningham, do you see the Patriots adding an additional QB to the ps for the remainder of the season or just riding it out with Zappe, Grier, and Jones?

  — Josh Nealon (@jmnpats) December 12, 2023

  It wouldn’t surprise me if the Patriots add another quarterback to their practice squad, if not just for scout team purposes. Their workouts with E.J. Perry and Kendall Hinton on Tuesday seem to suggest that may be in the cards.

• https://x.com/Mark_1878_/status/1734669184359940266?s=20

  Whoever the coach is next year – whether it’s Bill Belichick, Jerod Mayo, or somebody else – is going to have to build back up the culture in the locker room. That coach will have a few players in place to help with that.

  Assuming he doesn’t retire, David Andrews is a player who can carry the torch on offense. Hunter Henry, a captain this year, is another player who seems like a strong leader (assuming the team re-signs him in free agency).

  On defense, Jabrill Peppers is an obvious choice to set the tone and build an identity around. There are other veterans on that side of the ball who also are important voices in the locker room, including Deatrich Wise (a captain this year), Jahlani Tavai, and Jonathan Jones, who are all under contract for 2024.

• Catflasher on Twitter: "I agree that if we don't get our guy the wins shouldn't be blamed but rather a refusal to offer what it takes to move up. However, in reviewing all those deals for QBs hasn't the consistently better deal been to trade back? / Twitter"

  I agree that if we don't get our guy the wins shouldn't be blamed but rather a refusal to offer what it takes to move up. However, in reviewing all those deals for QBs hasn't the consistently better deal been to trade back?

  Good question. Generally teams overpay to move up in the NFL Draft, so yes the value is always with the team moving back rather than with the team moving up. That being said, the team moving up gets the better player.

  When it comes to trading up for a quarterback, the deal is only as good as the evaluation of the player. When the Chiefs moved up for Patrick Mahomes in 2017, people called it an overpay at the time. Not anymore. Conversely, the move the Jets made to move up for Sam Darnold in 2018 was seen as a solid deal, but that didn’t end up mattering much when Darnold flamed out.

  Trading up in the NFL Draft is always inherently a risk. So is drafting a quarterback. Doing both only compounds the risk. But it’s also the price of doing business in the NFL, and a risk the Patriots likely will need to take.

• Andrew Foster on Twitter: "Bit of a weird one for you- the NFL seems to have an O line crisis, and there's talk about making a rules change to make their lives easier. Given that (and the fact that we have many other needs), should we save our top assets for QB and WR, and target OT in the later rounds? / Twitter"

  Bit of a weird one for you- the NFL seems to have an O line crisis, and there's talk about making a rules change to make their lives easier. Given that (and the fact that we have many other needs), should we save our top assets for QB and WR, and target OT in the later rounds?

  I wouldn’t count on a pending rule change when it comes to roster building. Plus, the talent available at tackle this offseason both in free agency and the draft is relatively thin.

  The NFL definitely has a shortage of tackles right now. Answering that by investing less in tackles isn’t a great idea. The Patriots should look to use at least one premium asset (a top-50 pick or a starting-caliber contract) on the position this offseason.

• Alex Barth is a writer and digital producer for 985TheSportsHub.com. Any opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of 98.5 The Sports Hub, Beasley Media Group, or any subsidiaries. Thoughts? Comments? Questions? Looking for a podcast guest? Let him know on Twitter @RealAlexBarth or via email at abarth@985TheSportsHub.com.

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