Scott Zolak: Patriots are “vastly incomplete” right now
On Tuesday’s edition of Zolak & Bertrand, Scott Zolak made it clear that the Patriots are vastly incomplete right now.
Can you follow the 49ers plan?
Marc Bertrand: This is something I want to ask to the people who want to trade out. Where is the quarterback coming from when you do this? Is it your second round plan where you draft a guy in the second round? Is it a plan where you just wait for another day because you can’t tell me they’re not ready for a quarterback, so you can’t draft one in this draft at the top of the draft because they don’t have the pieces. They don’t have the receivers, they don’t have the tackles. They don’t have the protection. Well, then you can’t draft anybody else in this draft. So where is that guy coming from? When are you getting the quarterback? Just curious.
Phil Perry: You could get lucky. You could fall into a Dak Prescott. You could fall into a Kirk Cousins. You could fall into a Jalen Hurts or a Brock Purdy, right?
Marc Bertrand: That’s a good plan.
Phil Perry: That’s what these teams did and to the caller’s point. What he’s describing is sort of what the Niners did. They built a great roster. Then they traded away a ton of draft capital to move up for the guy that they thought was the guy and he failed and look at him now. Now they just made the Super Bowl. They got lucky with the seventh round pick at quarterback. Is that a plan that you want to try to follow? Is that a replicable plan?
Marc Bertrand: No, they don’t have the guys to do that. I’m sorry. Alex Van Pelt is not going to be the guy to do that. He’s not exactly cutting edge. Kyle Shanahan is a great offensive mind. He got lucky with Brock Purdy in the seventh round.
Scott Zolak: He was forced to do that because they paid for Garoppolo. You can even say they overpaid. They made a massive, massive trade to try to get up get Trey Lance. They couldn’t draft another guy high after that, even though everybody says take a shot at the quarterback. At that point, we’re paying for Jimmy and we don’t like him. Our trade blew up in our face. This kid’s a bust. We could only select a kid lower now and it worked out for them. Hurts was a second rounder, so I mean like that would be more of a plan for for me. Like to get the tackle or get the receiver. Get a guy in a second round or trade up high second round, late first. Get a guy.
Phil Perry: Generally speaking, though, that’s not where the starting quarterbacks come from. They come from the first round. So, you’re hoping to get lucky again.
Scott Zolak: You get drafted and play him.
Phil Perry: And that Eagles build took about ten years. You know Jason Kelce and Lane Johnson were drafted when Jalen Hurts was still in high school.
Scott Zolak: I can’t tell you how many people around here that I talked to outside this building. I’m not talking to the Patriots. Just like random people and friends. If they take a guy at 3, they better play him or we’re pissed. Like we’re not going to games. You know how much this team needs? Like you talk about grades, it’s hard to give them a grade because I think they’re vastly incomplete.
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Patriots draft preview 2024: Quarterbacks
L-R: 2024 NFL Draft quarterbacks Drake Maye of UNC, Michael Penix of Washington, J.J. McCarthy of Michigan, and Spencer Rattler of South Carolina. (USA Today Images)
It’s that time of year again! With showcase games, the NFL Combine, and the initial wave of free agency in the books, we can get underway with the annual 98.5 The Sports Hub Patriots positional draft preview series.
Just as we’ve done the last few years, we’ll highlight a different position every Tuesday and Thursday between now and the draft (we’ll also have some form of Mock Drafts every Monday). Each preview will be a little different depending on the position itself, the way this year’s draft board is laid out, and how much of a need that position is for the Patriots.
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We’ll start with arguably the position of need for the Patriots in the draft – quarterback. The past two years these quarterback previews have been pretty much secondary info, but this year this one may be the starring attraction.
Earlier this month we put out our post-Combine quarterback big board, but this class runs much deeper than just the top players who have become household names. Whether the Patriots take a quarterback third overall, wait until Day 2, or double up and take another quarterback on Day 3, it’s still very much knowing the whole class.
So, who are the quarterbacks this year? From the top of the board to names you may be hearing for the first time, let’s take a page out of Tony Mazz’s playbook and look at the ‘tiers’ of this year’s class.
Keep in mind, these tiers are based on where players are expected to be drafted, more than their expected career outcome. Again, for that check out our QB big board. This is more a look at the draft landscape itself.
‘One-of-one’ tier
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA – NOVEMBER 18: Caleb Williams #13 of the USC Trojans passes the ball during the first half of a game against the UCLA Bruins at United Airlines Field at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum on November 18, 2023 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Sean M. Haffey/Getty Images)
— Caleb Williams, USC
There’s been plenty of ‘prospect fatigue’ around Caleb Williams, as he’s now been in the spotlight as the presumed top quarterback in this draft for almost two years. While he maybe isn’t on the ‘generational’ level guys like Andrew Luck or Trevor Lawrence were as prospects, he still belongs in a class of his own in this draft.
Why? His carrying trait is arguably the most sought-after trait in quarterbacks in the NFL right now – the ability to, on a relatively regular basis, create something from nothing when everything else is falling apart around him. Other parts of his game need work for sure, but there’s no such thing as a ‘perfect’ prospect and assuming that skill translates Williams should be a dangerous quarterback for a long time.
‘Should be a franchise QB’ tier
ORLANDO, FLORIDA – SEPTEMBER 03: Jayden Daniels #5 of the LSU Tigers looks to throw a pass in the first quarter against the Florida State Seminoles at Camping World Stadium on September 03, 2023 in Orlando, Florida. (Photo by Julio Aguilar/Getty Images)
— Jayden Daniels, LSU
— Drake Maye, UNCWhile their play styles are different, both Jayden Daniels and Drake Maye have showcased the tools teams look for in a potential franchise quarterback. For Daniels, his makeup is highlighted by his athleticism and deep ball ability. Maye flexes size and natural arm talent.
However, both have bigger flaws to fix than Williams. There’s concern about Daniels durability due to his size (listed at 6-foot-4, 210 pounds but he didn’t weigh in at the Combine), which is compounded by how reckless he can be as a runner. Meanwhile, Maye’s decision-making draws serious questions, leading to significant inconsistencies. Still, those are coachable issues that a team should be able to address relatively quickly, in which case both would have franchise quarterback upside, making them likely top 3 picks.
‘Could be a franchise QB’ tier
NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA – JANUARY 01: Michael Penix Jr. #9 of the Washington Huskies throws a pass during the fourth quarter against the Texas Longhorns during the CFP Semifinal Allstate Sugar Bowl at Caesars Superdome on January 01, 2024 in New Orleans, Louisiana. (Photo by Chris Graythen/Getty Images)
— Michael Penix, Washington
— J.J. McCarthy, MichiganLike Daniels and Maye, both Michael Penix and J.J. McCarthy have real franchise quarterback upside. However, their ‘ifs’ are slightly more significant and can’t be simply coached away, which likely knocks them down the board a bit (but not out of the first round).
For Penix, his red flag is his injury history. He had four season-ending injuries, including two right ACL tears, in four years at Indiana before transferring to Washington in 2022. If not for that, Penix would certainly be one tier higher and would be in the conversation for a top five pick.
Penix’s pure arm talent is the best of any quarterback in the draft. Yet despite reporting at the NFL Combine that he passed all his medical testing, teams still seem weary of using a first-round pick on him based on further reports.
McCarthy, on the other hand, comes into the NFL very inexperienced, especially for a projected high draft pick. Generally, teams use 25 career college starts as the cutoff for quarterbacks worthy of high draft picks. McCarthy made 28 starts at Michigan and was truly in the passenger seat for some of them, such as an eight pass attempt game against Penn State earlier this season. He’s also very young, having just turned 21 in January.
McCarthy’s size and athleticism, plus his ability to throw on the run, certainly will be enticing for teams. His age also gives him plenty of runway when it comes to improvement. But, there’s just not enough of him on tape right now to be able to paint a clear enough picture of his future.
‘He is what he is’ tier
EUGENE, OREGON – SEPTEMBER 23: Quarterback Bo Nix #10 of the Oregon Ducks passes the ball against the Colorado Buffaloes during the second half at Autzen Stadium on September 23, 2023 in Eugene, Oregon. (Photo by Tom Hauck/Getty Images)
— Bo Nix, Oregon
The biggest question Bo Nix had to answer coming into the pre-draft process is what he’d look like outside of an Oregon offensive system that took a lot off of his plate. So far he hasn’t done great in that regard, with less than stellar Senior Bowl and Combine performances. There are still some things Nix does well – he’s got good short and intermediate accuracy and he’s not exactly a statue in the pocket – but it’s looking more and more like he’ll simply be a product of whatever system he’s put in.
That’s not necessarily a bad thing. For a team that feels it has most of its roster in place and just needs a quarterback to drive the bus, he’d make a lot of sense late on Day 1 or early on Day 2. But for a team looking like a franchise quarterback? That ceiling just doesn’t appear to be there.
‘Fringe top 100’ tier
Oct 21, 2023; Columbia, Missouri, USA; South Carolina Gamecocks quarterback Spencer Rattler (7) during the first half against the Missouri Tigers at Faurot Field at Memorial Stadium. Credit: Jay Biggerstaff-USA TODAY Sports
— Spencer Rattler, South Carolina
This quarterback class drops off hard after the top six quarterbacks, and there’s a real chance those six above will be the only QBs to go in the top 100. As the pre-draft process has gone on though one player has emerged to possibly bridge the gap – Spencer Rattler. Rattler was the best quarterback on the field in Mobile for the Senior Bowl then followed that up with a strong showing at the Combine.
Concerns about his size (6-foot, 211 pounds), tendency to hunt big plays too often, and inconsistent accuracy in game action remain, but he has set himself apart as the top project quarterback in this class, and it wouldn’t be surprising if he ended up going late on Day 2 to a QB-needy team that misses out on the position in the initial run.
‘Lottery ticket’ tier
Tennessee quarterback Joe Milton III (7) is seen on the field during a football game between Tennessee and Texas A&M at Neyland Stadium in Knoxville, Tenn., on Saturday, Oct. 14, 2023. (Saul Young/News Sentinel/USA Today Network)
— Joe Milton, Tennessee
— Jordan Travis, Florida StateWe’re into the pure upside players now. These guys have some exciting individual traits, but have other issues that could prevent them from getting a significant shot to show how those traits will translate to the NFL.
There’s no better example of such a player than Joe Milton. Tennessee’s 6-foot-5, 235-pound quarterback has a rocket arm and can throw the ball over 75 yards in the air, and is a plus-athlete who is a problem for would-be tacklers when he gets into the open field on a scramble.
Yet despite his video game-like physical traits, in six college seasons, including four in which he started multiple games, he showed little development in accuracy and decision making. If he was younger and had more time to develop his draft stock may be higher, but he’s already 24 years old.
Jordan Travis made strides over his four years as a starter at Florida State, leading the Seminoles to an 11-0 record this year before suffering a significant leg injury late in the season. Prior to that injury Travis was projected as a Day 2 pick, but for an undersized quarterback (listed 6-foot-1, 200 pounds) who relies on mobility, how he heals from that injury will impact what kind of player he is in the NFL. He likely will start his rookie season on NFI. He’s also an older prospect, turning 24 in May.
‘High level backup’ tier
NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA – SEPTEMBER 02: Michael Pratt #7 of the Tulane Green Wave in action against the University of Southern Alabama at Yulman Stadium on September 02, 2023 in New Orleans, Louisiana. (Photo by Chris Graythen/Getty Images)
— Michael Pratt, Tulane
— Carter Bradley, South Alabama
— Austin Reed, Western KentuckyThis tier is kind of the opposite of the ‘lottery ticket’ tier. These are all quarterbacks who have a higher floor because of their accuracy and decision-making, but lack the physical traits or room for athletic growth that is needed to reach starting-caliber level. That doesn’t mean they can’t become starters, but their career path will likely be catching on as a backup and waiting for their chance (kind of like Bailey Zappe or Brock Purdy).
Michael Pratt is the highlight player of this group. He was another player who some thought might sneak into the top 100, but he’s done little in the pre-draft process to help himself get there. He’ll still probably be the first of these three quarterbacks off the board and could go ahead of one or both ‘lottery ticket’ players, if a team is approaching the pick specifically to find a reliable backup.
‘Once upon a time’ tier
SOUTH BEND, INDIANA – NOVEMBER 18: Sam Hartman #10 of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish passes for a first down in the first half against the Wake Forest Demon Deacons at Notre Dame Stadium on November 18, 2023 in South Bend, Indiana. (Photo by Quinn Harris/Getty Images)
— Sam Hartman, Notre Dame
— Kedon Slovis, BYUOnce upon a time, both Sam Hartman and Kedon Slovis were viewed as potential first-round picks. However, their careers plateaued and they never were able to reach that potential. They’ll probably still get drafted, but it may be 150-200 picks lower than one-time projections from multiple years ago.
Hartman broke out with Wake Forest in 2021, throwing for 4,228 yards and 39 touchdowns (while rushing for 11 more) in 14 games. Prior to the 2022 season he was labeled as one of the top quarterbacks in football and while he didn’t regress that season, he didn’t improve much either. Rather than head to the draft he transferred to Notre Dame last year, and saw his production dip.
Slovis looked like a star during his true freshman season at USC in 2019, but was limited to six games in 2020 due to COVID and never returned to that level of play. He played for three schools in three years between 2021 and 2023 with stops at Pitt and BYU, and in 28 games went 16-12 while throwing for 33 touchdowns and 23 interceptions.
‘Interesting UDFA’ tier
Oct 7, 2023; Lawrence, Kansas, USA; Kansas Jayhawks quarterback Jason Bean (9) drops back during the second half against the UCF Knights at David Booth Kansas Memorial Stadium. Credit: Peter Aiken-USA TODAY Sports
— Devin Leary, Kentucky
— Taulia Tagovailoa, Maryland
— Jason Bean, Kansas
— Andrew Peasley, WyomingRight now, it looks like between 12 and 14 quarterbacks will be drafted in 2024. One or two of these guys may get included late on Day 3, but likely all four will go undrafted.
Among the 20-something UDFAs in this class, these four stand out for individual reasons. Devin Leary would have fit in the ‘once upon a time’ tier, but rather than his play plateauing after his breakout year in 2021 he actually regressed – in part due to injury.
Jason Bean would be a logical target for a team that wants to add a dual-threat quarterback to its roster for camp, and potentially to the practice squad for scout-team purposes. The Patriots have certainly done that before with players like J’Mar Smith and Malik Cunningham, so Bean being on their radar would make some sense.
