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Felger & Mazz: If the Patriots move on from Belichick at season’s end, do it quick

The New England Patriots have fallen to 2-8 in the 2023 season and it feels like Bill Belichick’s future in New England could be coming to a close. On Monday’s…

Bill Belichick

MIAMI GARDENS, FLORIDA – OCTOBER 29: Head coach Bill Belichick of the New England Patriots walks off the field after his team’s 31-17 loss against the Miami Dolphins at Hard Rock Stadium on October 29, 2023 in Miami Gardens, Florida. (Photo by Megan Briggs/Getty Images)

The New England Patriots have fallen to 2-8 in the 2023 season and it feels like Bill Belichick's future in New England could be coming to a close. On Monday's Felger and Mazz, the guys gave their thoughts on the future of Belichick in New England and the possibility of him being replaced.

If the Patriots move on from Bill Belichick in the offseason, don't waste time doing it...

Mazz: Look, if you don't want to do anything now, don't do anything now. I've got no problem with that part of it. End of the year...push the button one way or the other. And call it whatever you want. You want to say it's a "mutual parting of ways", or "we've traded Bill Belichick", or "Bill has agreed to this", or call it whatever you want. It doesn't have to be a firing. I don't care.

Felger: Okay. However, I'm going to give you a however. Finish....

Mazz: But move on.

Felger: Okay, and I agree....Don't get hung up haggling for an extra draft pick or something. Like I would put that on the list of cutting corners. I would put that on the list of this, what's the expression, "pound wise, penny foolish"?

Mazz: Penny Wise, pound foolish"

Felger: So like, what does that mean exactly.

Mazz: It means that you're watching pennies and then missing the bigger picture.

FOXBOROUGH, MASSACHUSETTS - NOVEMBER 05: Head coach Bill Belichick looks on in the game against the Washington Commanders during the second half at Gillette Stadium on November 05, 2023 in Foxborough, Massachusetts. (Photo by Maddie Meyer/Getty Images)Maddie Meyer/Getty Images

FOXBOROUGH, MASSACHUSETTS - NOVEMBER 05: Head coach Bill Belichick looks on in the game against the Washington Commanders during the second half at Gillette Stadium on November 05, 2023 in Foxborough, Massachusetts. (Photo by Maddie Meyer/Getty Images)

Felger: So, what happens after the year is that there's a mad dash for the coaches and the GM's and the staffs. It's not a long game process. It doesn't take a long time. The teams that have missed the playoffs and are changing coaches go out and again "Black Monday" comes the Monday after the season ends. All the guys get fired and all the interviews start and then those guys start assembling their staffs and all these assistant coaches who are looking for jobs are available start picking sides. And this all happens like quick. It goes. And so if Kraft is sitting there waiting for the best offer for Belichick, or haggling with teams over draft picks, or playing this game where "I'm not going to fire you because I want a draft pick in return" and some other team is sitting out there saying, "Well, why would I trade you a draft pick when you're going to fire him" and Kraft says, "Well, I'm not going to fire him", and now you're sitting here with Bill Belichick for a couple of months because you're playing this game of chicken because you want a first instead of a second or a second instead of a third or whatever, and now staffs have been picked all over the place and coaches are gone, like that would piss me off. Don't worry about your return for Bill Belichick. Do whatever you can to get the best staff in here possible. Coaching wise, general maanger wise, the whole thing. And so I can already feel myself getting agitated about this as I know these guys are posturing each other about, "oh I'm not fired", "you're not quitting, I fired you". And it's like, don't play that game.

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Different country, same result: 6 takeaways from the Patriots’ loss in Germany

New week. Different country. Same result.

Despite coming in at 2-7, the New England Patriots' Week 10 matchup against the Indianapolis Colts was billed as a marquee matchup for the franchise, on the international stage in Germany. Despite that different stage the play on the field looked all too familiar.


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The game was a low-scoring defensive struggle most of the way. Despite finding little traction, the Patriots' offense had a chance to win the game late, only to be done in by turnovers in a 10-6 defeat.

Bill Belichick noted that similarity after the game. "Similar theme to other games we've had this year," he said to start his postgame press conference. "Too many missed opportunities in all three phases.

With that result the Patriots will head into the bye week at 2-8, facing numerous questions. The most pressing question will be about the quarterback position, which is where we'll start with this week's takeaways...

Where to go at quarterback?

FRANKFURT AM MAIN, GERMANY - NOVEMBER 12: Bailey Zappe #4 of the New England Patriots and Mac Jones #10 of the New England Patriots look dejected following the team's 10-6 defeat during the NFL match between the Indianapolis Colts and the New England Patriots at Deutsche Bank Park on November 12, 2023 in Frankfurt am Main, Germany. (Photo by Alex Grimm/Getty Images)

FRANKFURT AM MAIN, GERMANY - NOVEMBER 12: Bailey Zappe #4 of the New England Patriots and Mac Jones #10 of the New England Patriots look dejected following the team's 10-6 defeat during the NFL match between the Indianapolis Colts and the New England Patriots at Deutsche Bank Park on November 12, 2023 in Frankfurt am Main, Germany. (Photo by Alex Grimm/Getty Images)

For most of this game, Mac Jones has some minor issues but nothing overly costly. He did dodge disaster once with an underhand flip out of a sack on a third down, and later was chewed out by Bill O'Brien, but despite all of that he didn't turn the ball over and the Patriots were in the game. However, when the Patriots needed him to make a play, he faltered in a big way.

Jones' final two drives both ended his misfires. Facing a 3rd & goal from the 5-yard line with 12:52 to go in the game, Jones sailed a pass over the head of and behind Hunter Henry in the end zone, missing what would have been a game-winning touchdown.

As has been the case regularly this year, rather than stepping into the throw and firing the ball on a rope to Henry, Jones faded away and threw a touch-pass. By the time the ball got to Henry the window had closed, and it didn't help that Jones wasn't on-point with the throw either.

On the next drive Jones got another chance, as the Patriots once again drove the ball into the red zone. On a 2nd & 12 from the Colts' 15, Jones had Mike Gesicki up the seam in the end zone. This time Jones threw a lower trajectory pass - again off his back foot - when he probably should have lofted it. The ball came up well short of Gesicki, and right to Colts safety Julian Blackmon who grabbed it for the interception.

That ended up being the final play Jones would play in the game. When the Patriots got the ball back with 1:52 to go an no timeouts, Bailey Zappe came into the game at quarterback. That was a relatively unprecedented move from Bill Belichick, putting a new quarterback into the game cold for a game-winning two-minute drill - especially a quarterback that hadn't played a meaningful snap all season and no snaps at all since Week 5.

Zappe was able to move the ball to midfield, but seemed flustered when the Patriots were awarded a first-down in-bounds on a Rhamondre Stevenson run on a 4th & 1 with 36 seconds to play in the game. After a scramble to get to the line the Patriots tired a fake spike, but Zappe threw it right into triple coverage, with safety Rodney Thomas coming down with the game-winning pick.

What happens next at quarterback? It's hard to say. Pulling Jones for a game-winning drive shows a lack of confidence in him, but throughout the season it's been reported the Patriots' level of confidence in Zappe isn't high either. After the game Belichick told reporters the Patriots will worry about the next starting quarterback "next week," and they'll have plenty of time to do so with the bye week coming up.

Offensive line takes a step back

Nov 12, 2023; Frankfurt, Germany; New England Patriots quarterback Mac Jones (10) attempts to pass the ball under pressure by Indianapolis Colts defensive end Adetomiwa Adebawore (95) in the third quarter during an International Series game at Deutsche Bank Park. Credit: Nathan Ray Seebeck-USA TODAY Sports

Nov 12, 2023; Frankfurt, Germany; New England Patriots quarterback Mac Jones (10) attempts to pass the ball under pressure by Indianapolis Colts defensive end Adetomiwa Adebawore (95) in the third quarter during an International Series game at Deutsche Bank Park. Credit: Nathan Ray Seebeck-USA TODAY Sports

Last week, the Patriots' offensive line was able to step up in the absence of left tackle Trent Brown. This week Brown's absence was felt and the group took a significant step back.

Mac Jones was sacked five times in this game (three from defensive end Dayo Odeyingbo), and hit a total of nine times on 25 drop-backs. Without the additional pressure numbers we know Jones' pressure rate was at least 36 percent, which along would be his second-highest of the year and highest since the season opener (39.7 percent).

This was the first game in which the Patriots didn't have offensive line coach Adrian Klemm, who is away from the team due to a medical issue. Perhaps his absence was part of the issue, but as was the case in the matchup last year against the Colts the interior of the offensive line struggled with the Colts' interior rush. Stunts were also a problem yet again.

Running with purpose

FRANKFURT AM MAIN, GERMANY - NOVEMBER 12: Ezekiel Elliott #15 of the New England Patriots runs the ball in the second quarter during the NFL match between the Indianapolis Colts and the New England Patriots at Deutsche Bank Park on November 12, 2023 in Frankfurt am Main, Germany. (Photo by Alex Grimm/Getty Images)

FRANKFURT AM MAIN, GERMANY - NOVEMBER 12: Ezekiel Elliott #15 of the New England Patriots runs the ball in the second quarter during the NFL match between the Indianapolis Colts and the New England Patriots at Deutsche Bank Park on November 12, 2023 in Frankfurt am Main, Germany. (Photo by Alex Grimm/Getty Images)

Despite the Patriots’ issues up front, they were able to produce one of their best rushing games of the season. Collectively the team ran for a season-high 167 yards and 4.7 yards per carry. Rhamondre Stevenson got the ball 20 times for 88 yards, while Ezekiel Elliott was handed the ball 13 times for 54 yards. Elliott also picked up 34 yards on two catches.

Elliott has shown good burst the last few weeks, and is looking a lot like the player he was in Dallas. The Patriots should continue to keep him involved, especially given his fresh legs late in the season.

Stevenson had another good game on the ground after his breakout last week. However, he did have a drop as a receiver.

JuJu Smith-Schuster still looks uncomfortable

Twice, wide receiver Juju Smith-Schuster cost the Patriots field position and big plays with alignment penalties. The first came on a false start late in the first half as the Patriots were trying to go on a two-minute drill. In the fourth quarter he didn’t get set after motion, resulting in an illegal shift penalty that wiped out an 18-yard Ezekiel Elliott run. For a player that's missed as much playing time and been as on-and-off the field and Smith-Schuster in recent weeks, it's not surprising to see minor miscues like that.

Smith-Schuster did have a high-point in this game, when he high-pointed a ball on the sideline for a nine-yard gain on 3rd & 5 in the third quarter. However, that was his lone target.

Isaiah McKenzie strikes again

FRANKFURT AM MAIN, GERMANY - NOVEMBER 12: Isaiah McKenzie #6 of the Indianapolis Colts is tackled by Myles Bryant #27 of the New England Patriots in the first quarter during the NFL match between the Indianapolis Colts and the New England Patriots at Deutsche Bank Park on November 12, 2023 in Frankfurt am Main, Germany. (Photo by Alex Grimm/Getty Images)

FRANKFURT AM MAIN, GERMANY - NOVEMBER 12: Isaiah McKenzie #6 of the Indianapolis Colts is tackled by Myles Bryant #27 of the New England Patriots in the first quarter during the NFL match between the Indianapolis Colts and the New England Patriots at Deutsche Bank Park on November 12, 2023 in Frankfurt am Main, Germany. (Photo by Alex Grimm/Getty Images)

Patriots fans may have been surprised to hear a familiar name on the Colts' offense, in wide receiver Isaiah McKenzie. McKenzie is in his first year with the Colts after spending 2018-2022 with the Buffalo Bills. During his time with the Bills McKenzie burned the Patriots on multiple occasions, highlighted by an 11-catch, 125-yard performance in Foxborough in Week 16 of the 2021 season.

On Sunday McKenzie didn't quite throw it all the way back to that performance, but he was good. He caught four passes for 31 yards, with two of those four catches going for first downs. He also had a 42-yard kickoff return.

Notably, the Patriots employed the same coverage strategy on McKenzie as they had in the past when he was in Buffalo. Myles Bryant was on him for most of the game, which was a speed mismatch in favor of McKenzie. Bryant, more of a read-and-react player, was beat on McKenzie's big catch.

Once the Patriots put Bryant back in a deep zone where he's more comfortable, he was able to make a play. When Jahlani Tavai deflected a pass over the middle by Colts quarterback Gardner Minshew in the third quarter, Bryant read the play perfectly and was able to get into position for an interception.

Special teams struggles continue

Nov 12, 2023; Frankfurt, Germany;  New England Patriots place kicker Chad Ryland (37) attempts a field goal against the Indianapolis Colts in the fourth quarter during an International Series game at Deutsche Bank Park. Credit: Nathan Ray Seebeck-USA TODAY Sports

Nov 12, 2023; Frankfurt, Germany; New England Patriots place kicker Chad Ryland (37) attempts a field goal against the Indianapolis Colts in the fourth quarter during an International Series game at Deutsche Bank Park. Credit: Nathan Ray Seebeck-USA TODAY Sports

This was another rough game for the Patriots’ special teams units, both from a game plan and execution standpoint.

The first big special teams question came early in the second quarter. With the Colts backed up to their own 13, it seemed like the Patriots wanted to go with an all-out rush and try to take advantage of the field position. That’s not uncommon in the NFL, but the Patriots didn’t truly go all-out. They put nine guys on the line of scrimmage, then had Demario Douglas and Shaun Wade 12 yards off the line of scrimmage out wide with no returners deep.

That left the Patriots with a numbers disadvantage on the punt rush, as well as nobody back to return. Rigoberto Sanchez was able to get off a great kick which took a Colts' roll, resulting in a 69-yard punt that flipped the field.

There were other misses from the unit too, including the long kick return by Isaiah McKenzie. There the 35-yard miss from rookie kicker Chad Ryland. That proved costly late in the game, when the Patriots were driving for a touchdown. Had Ryland connected on that kick, they would have just needed a field goal.

The lone bright spot for the Patriots on special teams was rookie punter Bryce Baringer. Baringer punted four times for a total of 250 yards and a net of 49.8 yards per punt. Although he had two touchbacks, they were still massive field-flipping plays with Barginer punting from deep in his own territory (including a 79-yard punt with the ball at the Patriots' 21). As Matthew Slater pointed out after the game, the net on those kicks makes them worth the touchbacks. Baringer had one I-20 kick as well.

Alex Barth is a writer and digital producer for 985TheSportsHub.com. Any opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of 98.5 The Sports Hub, Beasley Media Group, or any subsidiaries. Thoughts? Comments? Questions? Looking for a podcast guest? Let him know on Twitter @RealAlexBarth or via email at abarth@985TheSportsHub.com.

Kevin Maggiore has been producing on the Felger & Mazz program since January of 2022 and has been producing with 98.5 The Sports Hub since 2018. Kevin also produces New England Patriots broadcasts on The Sports Hub and has produced Boston Celtics and Boston Bruins broadcasts in the past. Kevin grew up in Saugus, Massachusetts and is still in the area today. A lifelong hockey fan, Kevin collects hockey jerseys and has over 100 jerseys in his collection. Kevin loves spending his time away from the office on the golf course. Kevin writes about all New England sports from Patriots football to Boston Celtics and Boston Bruins.