Toucher & Hardy

Toucher & Hardy

Toucher & Hardy

Chris Forsberg from NBC Sports Boston joined Toucher & Rich this morning and shared his thoughts on the blockbuster three-team trade that has Marcus Smart shipping out of Boston.

  • BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS - MAY 25: Marcus Smart #36 of the Boston Celtics reacts against the Miami Heat during the first quarter in game five of the Eastern Conference Finals at TD Garden on May 25, 2023 in Boston, Massachusetts. (Photo by Maddie Meyer/Getty Images)

    BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS – MAY 25: Marcus Smart #36 of the Boston Celtics reacts against the Miami Heat during the first quarter in game five of the Eastern Conference Finals at TD Garden on May 25, 2023 in Boston, Massachusetts. (Photo by Maddie Meyer/Getty Images)

  • The Boston Celtics, Washington Wizards, and Memphis Grizzlies finalized a three-team trade agreement on Wednesday night. The trade involved center Kristaps Porzingis moving to the Celtics, guard Marcus Smart going to the Grizzlies, and guard Tyus Jones joining the Wizards.

  • Chris Forsberg expresses uncertainty about whether the team is better off now, highlighting concerns about Smart’s performance and the overall vision for the team. Chris emphasizes the loss of a critical voice and raises questions about the team’s direction moving forward.

  • Fred Toucher:  It does justify, though, the people that said this team needed a shakeup, at least it shows that people high enough up in the organization agreed because a lot of that was dismissed. Not by everyone and certainly not by you. You’ve been very critical of the team when needed. But I know, like Gorman thought it was time for a big shakeup, but he never would’ve gotten rid of Smart. He thought they need to get rid of Brown. It also shows what our eyes told us might be true. You have a window in the NBA to win. I realize these kids are young, but let’s give these kids the best chance they can going into next season to do it.

    Chris Forsberg: Yeah, I guess the one thing that I’d push back on is like, I don’t know if they’re better today. Look, there are more moves to come and we’ll see how this thing ultimately looks overall. And I get the whole notion. I mean, I was always the one who tried to justify a run-it-back for large portions of the three weeks that we’ve been in the off-season. But, you know, I am curious. I can sell myself on all sorts of the red flags going to be 30 next year, his defense eroded last year, and the numbers with the Jays weren’t as glossy as they were in the past. I mean he’s just the common thread through all these iterations of the team. You could push back immediately and say well they haven’t they haven’t gotten what they needed to get to – so you got to do something. You certainly have to give up talent to get talent. I just I guess I’m yearning to see the final product and what the final vision is, because right now I look at and I’m like, man, I just I just don’t know if they’re there. I don’t know if I like the beyond the on-court makeup. You’re losing you’re a voice. A guy who was at least willing to be critical, who was willing to go up against. I don’t know who those guys are now that sort of take on that challenge. Maybe that will become clear. Maybe it doesn’t matter. Maybe just the ultimately just talent matters and you have enough skilled players that it’s a wash in the end. But in this immediate aftermath, I’m left with a lot of questions about where this thing goes.

  • Chris also explains the void it creates within the Boston Celtics and how Smart was seen as the heart and soul of the team, known for his intensity, clutch plays, and willingness to challenge Jays and his eager to hear Brad Stevens’ vision and plans for addressing this issue.


    “In trading Marcus Smart It’s not just the short of that, he was the guy that was around forever. It’s like he was your heart and soul. The definition of your team. When you thought about the Celtics, as good as Jason and Jaylen are, your first thought was like all the craziness that Smart does and the plays he makes in the late moments and the toughness and the willingness to call out those stars. Who are places that? Now you’re what your oldest player is AL, But I think we know the sort of leadership he brings is more quiet and soft-spoken in that regard. Who are you leaning on to sort of be the temperature? To keep the Jays in line? To steer this thing when things get rocky? Sometimes markets took gasoline, imported all over this thing, and made things worse, but at least he was motivated at the moment. I do have a little bit of concern about sort of who is that guy that that sort of inspires your team, that sort of keeps them in line or fired up or whatever the case may be. I don’t have that answer. Yeah, That’s why, again, I’m eager for Brad Stevens to address this and sort of tell us his vision about where this is going.”


  • Nick Gemelli is a Producer for the Toucher and Rich program and contributor for you can follow Nick at @NickGemelli on Twitter.

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