Fred Toucher: It does justify, though, the people that said this team needed a shakeup, at least it shows that people high enough up in the organization agreed because a lot of that was dismissed. Not by everyone and certainly not by you. You’ve been very critical of the team when needed. But I know, like Gorman thought it was time for a big shakeup, but he never would’ve gotten rid of Smart. He thought they need to get rid of Brown. It also shows what our eyes told us might be true. You have a window in the NBA to win. I realize these kids are young, but let’s give these kids the best chance they can going into next season to do it.
Chris Forsberg: Yeah, I guess the one thing that I’d push back on is like, I don’t know if they’re better today. Look, there are more moves to come and we’ll see how this thing ultimately looks overall. And I get the whole notion. I mean, I was always the one who tried to justify a run-it-back for large portions of the three weeks that we’ve been in the off-season. But, you know, I am curious. I can sell myself on all sorts of the red flags going to be 30 next year, his defense eroded last year, and the numbers with the Jays weren’t as glossy as they were in the past. I mean he’s just the common thread through all these iterations of the team. You could push back immediately and say well they haven’t they haven’t gotten what they needed to get to – so you got to do something. You certainly have to give up talent to get talent. I just I guess I’m yearning to see the final product and what the final vision is, because right now I look at and I’m like, man, I just I just don’t know if they’re there. I don’t know if I like the beyond the on-court makeup. You’re losing you’re a voice. A guy who was at least willing to be critical, who was willing to go up against. I don’t know who those guys are now that sort of take on that challenge. Maybe that will become clear. Maybe it doesn’t matter. Maybe just the ultimately just talent matters and you have enough skilled players that it’s a wash in the end. But in this immediate aftermath, I’m left with a lot of questions about where this thing goes.
