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Last Summer, The Mass. House of Representatives passed a sports betting bill aligning the commonwealth with 30 other states, including Washington, D.C. The Senate also passed their own wagering bill in April but unlike the House, it doesn’t allow college sports betting, in an omitted provision that House considers a deal-breaker.

Joe Murray and Dan Lifshatz, a.k.a. the Bankroll Boys, share their thoughts on the situation.

Joe Murray: There’s a huge sports gambling bill that’s going to end on [July] 31st. We’re going to have a guest on on Saturday when we do the show to talk about it. But the down to the nitty-gritty of it all, though, it really comes down to [Karen] Spilka and Ron Mariano. It’s either college sports is in or it’s out. And personally, I think it’s going to affect some opportunities for Dan [Lifshatz] and I … I’m not hearing good things. So it sounds like – and I agree, actually – if the bill gets passed without sports betting, it’s a bad deal for Massachusetts. It’s a bad deal. They’re not going to get that money. It’s the most money that they could – one of the biggest revenues and handles.

Fred Toucher: Well, so you’re saying sports betting is going to pass. It’s just a matter of if it includes college sports.

Joe Murray: Yeah. And I would not do the deal. Don’t do it. Hold out. Don’t do a bad deal.

Dan Lifshatz: Yeah, I don’t think it is going to pass without college sports. They’re going to lose, from reports, over 53 percent of their handle, potential handle, if they don’t include college sports. Again, that would basically include everything that goes on in March, because no one bets on anything in March besides March Madness for the most part. They’ll lose, you know, a ton from college football. It would just be a big mistake by the state.

And again, we’ve all seen what the compromise is: don’t allow betting on college teams in-state. You can’t bet on UMass, you can’t bet on BC, you can’t bet on Northeastern, whatever. Fine. But the fact is that, you know, other states have made the compromise. So I just don’t understand why Massachusetts can’t figure out how to make the compromise. Every other state who has had an issue with college sports betting has found the compromise.

Why can’t Massachusetts figure it out? I mean, are we really that stupid that our politicians can’t look at other states and be like, oh, well, this is a good compromise. It just feels like these, you know, the people over and over and over, just complete, utter idiots. And it’s extremely frustrating.

Joe Murray: It’s just frustrating that we’re at the point now where you – why can’t you just put it in? And if it’s about local teams, take it out, then fine. But you got to keep college betting in there. But from what I hear personally, guys, like, there are people who advertise with us hoping that this thing gets passed. And there’s a lot of money held up right now.

There’s, we have, what, a week before this thing’s either going to pass or not. And football season is less than a month away. We’re like some of our jobs are, you know, I mean, I’m being that serious about this. Like, why would some people advertise here if it’s not legal? Like they’ll go to New Hampshire and Connecticut and all these other places and advertise with them. So it’s like, I’m wondering what’s going on.

There’s some things down the pipe that I don’t think is going to happen for me because this isn’t going to pass. Not to sound selfish about it. Guys I think this is a bad deal for Massachusetts. Why do this deal if college isn’t included?

Dan Lifshatz: I don’t know.

Joe Murray: Well, listen, I don’t want to get the – we can get into the train stuff later – but you want to get money to fix that. This is what would help it, and I don’t – 53 percent of the handle? Don’t do the deal. Don’t do it.